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Dr.
Elizabeth Severino & the
Angel-Wonder Powers Team
Chat'N'Pray
March 5, 2009
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Dr.
Liz
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Dr.
Liz
- Hmmm. Chat software issues tonight already!
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GirlyGirls
- Can you hear me now?
Dr.
Liz
- Hi, GG! How are you?
GirlyGirls
- I little rugged, Liz, but doing okay. How are you?
GirlyGirls
- Fannie is here with me.
Dr.
Liz
- A friend of mine lent me a book and invited me to send
it along to someone I felt would appreciate it. It's on
Mozart. I figured to send it to you.
Dr.
Liz
- So expect to receive it sometime over this next while.
GirlyGirls
- Oh, wonderful! I need Mozart, I think. I've been neglecting
our friendship.
Dr.
Liz
- I went to the Flower Show today with friends. VERY fun!
I loved it! The theme is "Bella Italia".
GirlyGirls
- I'll hope to pull together a consult with you for fannie
soon, she got as smacked by the CO poisoning as I did, maybe
more
Dee
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Dee
& the kids
- Hi Dr Liz & GG
GirlyGirls
- I'm going to the FLower Show tomorrow. It looks WONDERFUL!!!
GirlyGirls
- Hi, Dee
Dr.
Liz
- I've been to Italy. I majored in Latin. I'm part Italian.
A part of my heart is always in Italy. VERY fun today.
Dr.
Liz
- Hi, Dee!
Dr.
Liz
- GG, I'm sorry to hear you and Fannie were sickened.
GirlyGirls
- Liz, was wondering if Severino is your given or a name
acquired. I always see Severino pastas at Whole Foods.
GirlyGirls
- Yes, we're sorry, too! :-)
Dr.
Liz
- GG, they have VERY talented opera singers singing Italian
art songs and arias on performance schedules. Be sure to
catch at least one!
GirlyGirls
- Oh, COOL!
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Dr.
Liz
- Severino is my wusband's name.
GirlyGirls
- It was Ireland last year, wans't it?
Dee
& the kids
- Gg- what happened to you and Fannie???
GirlyGirls
- Your wusband?
GirlyGirls
- Was-Been Husband?
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Dr.
Liz
- I kept the name, Severino, after our divorce, for two
reasons. One, I didn't want the confusion for my daughter
in school, with me having a different last name. Two, I
had already achieved a lot of recognition in my career under
the name Elizabeth Severino.
GirlyGirls
- Faulty furnace repair, slow carbon monoxide for close
to two months, then a big bang beginning of February. in
many ways I'm feeling better than I have in months, but
other stuff is going on, does a number on the brain
Dr.
Liz
- I'd make a different decision with what I now know. However,
I did what I did.
GirlyGirls
- Yes, I understand those reasons for keeping a name, many
do so for the same.
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Dee
& the kids
- wow- we'll make sure you are in the basket tonight
Dr.
Liz
- Hi, Marianne!
GirlyGirls
- Hi, kikfrd (how does one pronounce that?)
GirlyGirls
- Oh, kidfrd is pronounced Maryanne!
GirlyGirls
- Marianne
kikfrd
- LOL!
GirlyGirls
- Thanks, Dee.
Dr.
Liz
- GG ... LOL!
Dee
& the kids
- lol GG
Dr.
Liz
- I love Italian art songs. I love opera music. I was in
heaven today listening to the Voices at the Flower Show.
Dee
& the kids
- Dr Liz- with all the snow we've had, I'm sure the flower
show was Stunning!!
Dr.
Liz
- GG, do you now have CO2 detectors in your home?
GirlyGirls
- I worked with a woman in the city who explained to me
there is a great power one feels in naming a child. . .she
drawled, "you can name your child (pronounced) Shareeka
and spell it C-A-T if you want, and everyone has to go along
with it. Kind of like kikfrd being pronounced Marianne!
LOL
GirlyGirls
- I did have a CO detector, one of the plug ins, but the
Fire Dept told me they've been trying to get them taken
off the shelves because they don't work. . .unless you have
a plug in your ceiling. Once the CO gets that low, you are
already dead.
GirlyGirls
- Nothing on the packaging tells you that.
GirlyGirls
- Most plugs are near the floor. CO rises.
Dee
& the kids
- wow- i did not know that GG
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, it was wonderful. I speak Italian, I had 9 years
of Latin, I majored in Latin at Vassar, I've studied Roman
architecture, Italian music, Italian art, Italian sculpture,
I've been to Italy, I love the REAL Italian food (all fresh
picked from local vegetable gardens, etc.) ... I was in
heaven today either seeing the flowers and the pools and
the fountains and the architecture, and/or, remembering
my Italian connections.
Dr.
Liz
- GG, my CO2 detectors are near the ceiling.
kikfrd
- I'm sorry-I just woke up from little power nap and I have
to go feed Kiki right now. (First part of Kikfrd)-brb
Dee
& the kids
- sounds wonderful...I can feel you beeming from the experience!
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Dr.
Liz
- The instructors with my CO2 detector say to put it near
any possible source of CO2 leakage, especially, in the furnace
area, and to mount it 6 inches below the ceiling. So that's
what I did.
GirlyGirls
- I am sooo looking forward to the show!
GirlyGirls
- Then you hae the ones with a battery, right liz?
Dr.
Liz
- I forgot to mention <blush> that I've also studied
Italian men ... LOL
GirlyGirls
- They are the correct ones to use, I was told (after I
got home from the hospital!)
Dr.
Liz
- GG, yes.
Dee
& the kids
- LOl Dr LIz
GirlyGirls
- And what do you think of Italian men, Liz, it's kinda
regional, isn't it?
Dr.
Liz
- GG, well, I married one, and also, divorced one.
Dee
& the kids
- oh GG- sound like you had some trouble lately...hope your
feeling better now
Dr.
Liz
- GG, what are you doing to help heal yourself from the
CO2 poisoning?
Dee
& the kids
- Dr Liz- UPDATE- I took your advise about introducing Jake
to getting his nails cut..I did it in ONE SITTING!
Dr.
Liz
- The homeopathic remedy, Antimonium tartaricum, is excellent
in that situation.
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Dee
& the kids
- Hi Joanne
kikfrd
- Joanne!
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, CONGRATS!!! You are SUCH a good healer/learner!
GirlyGirls
- I can see I will be having problems staying on line tonight.
. .If I lose you all, I'll be with you in spirit, and please
rememeber my intentions, Tim, Fannie, Fergus and Gray cat
Okay?
Dr.
Liz
- Hi, Joanne!
Dee
& the kids
- no muzze, he didnt even growl...showed a little teeth,
but we cut all front nails
Dr.
Liz
- GG, we'll be sure to send all of you oxygen and cleansing.
Joanne
- Hi all!!!
Joanne
- Dee, what did you do?
GirlyGirls
- Mostly vitamins and fresh air at this point Liz.
GirlyGirls
- Have some cardio issues that seem to be resolving, and
neuro changes that are distracting.
GirlyGirls
- Thanks, Liz.
Dee
& the kids
- my dog Jake had such troouble getting his nails cut, he
practically threw himself off the vets table last time,
they told me he needed to be sedated in the future...
GirlyGirls
- Hopeful all will resolve well.
Dr.
Liz
- GG, you may want to use antimonium tartaricum. 30C. 3
to 5 pellets 3 times a day, 10 minutes away from all food.
GirlyGirls
- Poor Jake. . .
GirlyGirls
- I like to get my nails done. . .
Dr.
Liz
- It helps neutralize the effects of CO2 poisoning.
GirlyGirls
- Thanks, Liz, will do.
GirlyGirls
- I'll go get some right now from the cabinet.
kikfrd
- spoken like a true Girly Girl :-)
GirlyGirls
- How much for Fannie
Dr.
Liz
- GG, have you used homeopathic remedies before? You know
not to touch them, yes? Just to pop them into your mouth?
Cheryl
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GirlyGirls
- kikfrd.. LOL
Dee
& the kids
- but I talked to Dr Liz about it and she told me a technique
where you introduce cutting slowly...like 99% doing something
he likes, 1% touch the nails....
Joanne
- and...how did Jake handle it?
Dr.
Liz
- GG, Fannie would be 2 pellets 3 x a day.
GirlyGirls
- Yes, I'm an old hand at it Liz, thanks.
kikfrd
- Dr Liz-at some point can we chat about Kiki real quick...
whenever-now later...
Dr.
Liz
- For Fannie, you would either pop them into her mouth under
her tongue, or dissolve them in a little bit of distilled
water and syringe them into her mouth.
Dee
& the kids
- he was fine...I used potato chips (his favorite thing
in the world....lol), but he was rewarded after he let me
touch his foot for 1 second....
Joanne
- That's sort of what I did with my dogs but none have been
difficult or afraid
GirlyGirls
- shoot liz, lost the info on the screen, how much for me?
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Dee
& the kids
- Jake was terrible, Dr Liz said he was cut once...(he's
a rescue, we've had him just over a year- he's 5 now- pit-lab
mix)
Dr.
Liz
- GG, depends on whether you get Nelsons' or Borion, but
usually, it's 3 to 5 pellets, 3 times a day, 10 minutes
away from food.
Joanne
- My problem is I never cut them short enough!! Any hints
with black nails?
Dee
& the kids
- we were able to cut all front nails...I only took off
a little to start,, but he did SO well
Dr.
Liz
- Hi, Bigcarl!
GirlyGirls
- I have boiron in my hand, just dosed.
Joanne
- Welcome Bigcarl!
GirlyGirls
- Hi, Bigcarl!
Bigcarl
- Hey
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, I am thrilled. One of the things I absolutely love
about you, is that when I explain something to you, you
GET it, and next thing I know, you're DOING it successfully!
Go GO, girl!
GirlyGirls
- BRB, lost my homage to Pinky color
Dee
& the kids
- Joanne- Jake got black nails too, so it is hard, I'd rather
they be a little long than cut him again
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Dr.
Liz
- GG, wonderful.
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Dee
& the kids
- thank you Dr Liz- you are such an awesome teacher...it
is easy to learn from you ; )
GirlyGirls
- That's better. .
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, it's absolutely my pleasure!
Joanne
- Is it true the nails get soft just before you get to the
quick?
Dr.
Liz
- GG, you look much better in pink! LOL!
GirlyGirls
- LOL!LOL! Thanks, Liz
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, yes.
Dee
& the kids
- and I must say, that everything that you have taugh me
that I have used with my animals, has always worked!!!
kikfrd
- Kiki can vouch for that!
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, thank you. I love teaching, and I love helping.
Joanne
- Dr. Liz, can you help me with all the neighborhood dogs
that are chained? It distresses me. How do chained dogs
feel?
GirlyGirls
- (just dosed Fannie)
Dr.
Liz
- Marianne, how is KIki doing now? Better, I sense ...
Dr.
Liz
- GG, GREAT!!!
Joanne
- What can I do to help them?
GirlyGirls
- It IS upsetting, Joanne.
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, I can't generalize like that. I have to ask each
dog.
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, to help them, the first thing you do, is find
out what the laws are in the jurisdiction where the chained
aninmals are.
Dr.
Liz
- Then you find out what the animal abuse laws are, in the
jurisdiction, where the animals are.
Joanne
- Can you ask a black lab I made friends with today? Or
do you have anything general you can say?
Dr.
Liz
- The fastest way, is to contact animal control.
kikfrd
- I think she's doing better but she has that sick looking
fur right now. The blood results came back in and he says
that there has not been any significant worsening of the
kidney values but there was an increase in white blood cells
which indicated to him an infection or inflamation somewhere
in her body. She's now on Clavamox
Dr.
Liz
- Animal conrol officers know the laws for the various jurisdictions.
For example, in some areas, it is legal to have an animal
chained as long as it has access to shelter, for example,
a dog house.
Dee
& the kids
- Joanne- I recently realized that it is an individual experience
for each dog, as Dr Liz recently adopted Mr. Smudge from
a shelter, and he actually LIKEd it there!...I was shocked
to hear that
Dr.
Liz
- In others, it isn't.
Dr.
Liz
- For some dogs, being chained outside is better than being
cooped up inside because they hate being inside.
Joanne
- I believe it's ok to chain if shelter is provided.
Dr.
Liz
- For some dogs, being chained is the only thing they know,
so they can't even visualize another reality.
GirlyGirls
- :-( Liz..
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, it depends. In some communities it's illegal to
chain a dog outside in certain weather conditions ... either
too hot, or too cold.
Dr.
Liz
- Interestingly, Joanne, YOU HAVE MORE RIGHTS AS A PRIVATE
CITIZEN, in animal abuse situations, than you would if you
were an organization or a group. Always remember this.
Cheryl
& kids
- I rescued a dog that had issues with being outdoor all
the time, severely abused and it took awhile for her to
adjust to indoor life--I found out recently that she has
cancer, but has already lived past their live expectancy
for her and she looks well and happy
Dr.
Liz
- So if you bring changes, or have cause to bring charges,
you will be listened to more quickly.
GirlyGirls
- Huh?
Joanne
- I'll check on it. I haven't seen any dogs being abused.
All are in good weight. I just imagine they're so lonely.
Dr.
Liz
- Mr. Smudge, I have learned, was mostly outside. He spent
most of his time in a truck. He's only now begining to get
used to being inside.
Dr.
Liz
- I meant, "charges" ... if you bring "charges"
... as an individual, you have more rights.
GirlyGirls
- In a truck? Do tell.. ??
Dr.
Liz
- Abuse doesn't mean just being hit. It means conditions,
as well.
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Joanne
- It's not being outside I have a problem with. It's being
chained and having food thrown at you once a day.
GirlyGirls
- HEY< MARGE!
Marge
- Hi all!
Dr.
Liz
- Hi, Marge! Glad you could make it!
Joanne
- Marge, hi!!!
kikfrd
- Hi Marge!
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, you must check with the laws in your jurisdiction.
It may be illegal to have a dog chained outside in very
cold weather, for example.
Dr.
Liz
- It may also be illegal to ONLY have a dog chained outside.
It varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. You'll have
to check. Animal conrol will know.
Joanne
- Do you mean there has to be more than one?
Cheryl
& kids
- Hi Marge!
Dr.
Liz
- GG, yes. He totally loved his former human, who was a
male. Mr. Smudge spent most of his time in a truck with
his former human or peacefully waiting for his former human
to come back to the truck..
Dee
& the kids
- Hi Marge
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, more than one ... ????
Joanne
- more than one dog chained outside together?
GirlyGirls
- Oh, he got to be a cool dog then. Truck, wind in his hair,
good buddy hanging with him. .
Dr.
Liz
- It's where he's the most comfortable ... in a truck, or
in a car on a bench seat.
Marge
- Liz ... what happened to Mr. Smudge and his former human?
Dr.
Liz
- GG, I'm LOVING hanging with him!!!
GirlyGirls
- Home.
GirlyGirls
- I'm so glad for you both
Dee
& the kids
- how awesome Dr Liz
Marge
- i.e. how come they aren't still together?
Cheryl
& kids
- Since you got Mr. Smudge from Pet Finder, does he tell
you about his former life much?
Dr.
Liz
- Marge, from what Mr. Smudge told me, there was a huge,
loud fight, between his former person, the aforementioned
male, who senses as being in his twenties, and an older
woman ...
Joanne
- Has he come into your life to teach something?
Cheryl
& kids
- Dr. Liz, since this week is continued on the topic from
last sesson, do you have further insight on the topic?
Dr.
Liz
- As near as I can tell, the male was seriously underfeeding
Mr. Smudge ... feeding him junk food, scraps, etc. ... he
was severely underweight ... and from what I can tell, the
woman who was fighting with the male, might have been his
mother or some other person who had some authority ... because
she took the dog away from the male, and took him to the
shelter and turned him in ... Mr. Smudge weighed about 30
pounds when he was turned in ... the shelter put some weight
on him, he was 42 pounds when I got him, still VERY underweight
... he's 48 pounds now, and still thin ....
Dee
& the kids
- but FAT with LOVE!
Marge
- oh dear
Joanne
- How sad!
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, definitely. His first lessons have been about
degrees of gentleness. He's the gentlest dog I've ever met.
Dr.
Liz
- He's also a very strong dog emotionally.
kikfrd
- What did he think about being underfed? Was he hungry?
Did he even know?
Dee
& the kids
- awesome Dr Liz
Cheryl
& kids
- Dr. Liz...quick question...I'm having an issue with Taki
and her eye--we've been to the vet, but they didnt find
anything...I'm concerned something is going on...could you
ask her quickly what she's experiencing so I can lead the
vet to check further?
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd, I'm not sure he knew. He's 11 years old. It may
have been all he's ever known.
Dr.
Liz
- Another lesson I'm learning from Mr. Smudge, is how trust
unfolds. His of me, and mine of him.
Joanne
- I sense his presence. He has very strong energy. Is he
a very old soul?
Dr.
Liz
- I experienced an exponential and very palpable rise in
trust from him on Tuesday. I'm still trying to figure it
out. I've never felt anything like it.
kikfrd
- LOL! Joanne-I was just thinking the same thing
kikfrd
- Was there an event on Tuesday that raised his trust?
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, so far, I've found no soul boundaries for him.
His soul may be one of those that is beyond space and time,
connected in all worlds and dimensions at the same time.
That may be why Tanaka and Alex picked him out for me.
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd, I asked myself the same question. I've been retracing
what happend energetically on Monday and Tuesday and I'm
not coming up with anything.
Joanne
- How do you determine soul boundaries?
kikfrd
- Dr. Liz... have you been giving him bach remedies?
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, you feel them ... they're either there, or they're
not.
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd, at first, yes. I made up a Senior Dog Rescue Formula.
Dr.
Liz
- I gave it to him for 10 days.
kikfrd
- could that have been the cause of the energetic change?
Dr.
Liz
- Cheryl, I saw your question. I simply haven't got a connection
to Taki yet.
Joanne
- By boundary, do you mean a 'place,' such as in this dimension?
Cheryl
& kids
- Thank you...she is here iwth me when youre ready : )
kikfrd
- Taki's line is busy right now
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd, I don't think so. I've had him since January 8th.
Marge
- lol kikfrd
kikfrd
- I didn't think so... that would have been an awfully big
delay
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, I mean an energetic "edge". It's either
there, or it isn't.
Joanne
- Believe it or not I think I can sense what you're talking
about.
Dr.
Liz
- Cheryl, it's more like, when Taki is ready! She's simply
not sending anything just yet.
Dee
& the kids
- Dr Liz- I have been hellping Marianne and KiKi...sending
energy to her kidneys...is blue an appropriate color for
the condition she has..I always sense to give blue??
Dr.
Liz
- Whoever asked about whether I've had a new insight on
unconditional love, thank you for the question. Yes, I have.
Joanne
- Do you think your experiences with Smudge have given you
new insight on unconditional love?
Dee
& the kids
- please share Dr Liz.....
Marge
- Joanne... that's the question I had in my mind
Dr.
Liz
- I use orange for kidneys and finish with a splash of blue.
Dee
& the kids
- thanks Dr Liz- as always...helpful info...lol
kikfrd
- Would orange help the heat? It seems that there's a lot
of warmth coming from there
Dr.
Liz
- It may be that Mr. Smudge has helped with this ... the
new insight I've had is, when you hold yourself and another
in the same field, and hold honor and equality for both
perceived distinct beings, one in that same field, then
that may be what we as humans can experience, as unconditional
love.
Dr.
Liz
- I use orange for kidneys, and then cool it with a splash
of blue when I'm done.
Joanne
- What about thyroid?
kikfrd
- Dr. Liz-explain how you can hold someone in the same field
Dee
& the kids
- what came to me as I meditated before this chat....I think
we as humans look to FIND what is unconditional love...look
to achieve it, but it is a natural state of being ("IS")
rather than to try to "BE"
Dr.
Liz
- The kidneys get hot because of anger. Orange is a general
purpose protection color that protects not only the one
feelng the anger, but also, the one at whom the anger is
directed. You must treat the emotion first.
Dr.
Liz
- Or resentment.
Dr.
Liz
- Dee yes.
Dee
& the kids
- our egos get in the way and we thin we have to find it
rather than be it
Joanne
- Is honor and equality an acceptance of yourself and the
other entity?
Joanne
- total acceptance?
kikfrd
- AH! Now what did I do? What's she angry or resentful about?...
Is it Fred? (2nd part of Kikfrd GG)
Dr.
Liz
- Kikfrd, it just happens. One day you realize there is
no boundary between yourself and one who is perceived as
an "other" ... and then you suddenly know what
it's like to hold both of you in the same field.
Dr.
Liz
- It may be easier for us to do that with our animals first,
than with a person. However, you can definitely do it witha
person, too.
GirlyGirls
- (thanks kikfred
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, equally, yes.
Dee
& the kids
- Dr Liz - spo you feel that Kiki has anger issues ...at
whom??..i only ask so I can help her release if I can
Joanne
- I know I do that with Bear. I'm starting to do it with
Ruger. I haven't tried with a human.
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, yes, total acceptance of self and the (formerly
perceived as ) "other".
Cheryl
& kids
- So, again, it is all about "oneness"
Joanne
- I am fortunate that on this journey I am learning how
to accept myself.
Dee
& the kids
- but does "acceptance" mean we have to DO something
to feel this love?
Dr.
Liz
- Cheryl, it all seems to boil down to the balance of the
oneness and the celebration of our uniqueness. The balance
of the paradox of perceived separation in a field of One.
Joanne
- No. Well for me it's a letting go.
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, doesn't seem to. It's more like BE-ing in Resonance.
Dee
& the kids
- wow nicely worded Dr. Liz!
Dee
& the kids
- ok...
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, it may be a mix of letting go AND of receiving
whatever is.
Cheryl
& kids
- All parts equaling the whole--we are not whole without
all the other parts. Accept all the "other" and
we become a balanced whole
Joanne
- Yes, that's exactly how it feels for me.
Joanne
- I'm still working on the receiving part.
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, what you wrote, "learning how to accept myself"
... that's been a big one for me, too.
GirlyGirls
- I was working on that very thing today.
Dr.
Liz
- Cheryl, accept and allow. We need to do both. Accept and
allow.
Dr.
Liz
- I always give myself a hard time because I feel I"m
not doing enough.
Joanne
- It's not something you can try to do. You start to accept
yourself when you start examining your underlying beliefs
about things.
Dr.
Liz
- Or, I give myself a hard time, because I feel I "should"
be more than I am ... or "should have done" more
than I've done.
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, precisely.
Joanne
- It's when you realize what's false that you can let it
go. Then, you start to see glimmers of who you really are.
Dee
& the kids
- ok, so how does this total acceptance of what is balance
with striving to be a better person???
Cheryl
& kids
- Does that feeling come from internal or external source?
Dr.
Liz
- Almost all conversations of judgement come from within.
Dr.
Liz
- The idea to do the judging, may have its catalyst from
outside the self.
Joanne
- There is no striving. That is always the mistake that
I make. I need to examine what is in front of me. That is
the lesson to be learned. It talk me six years to learn
this.
Dr.
Liz
- We will not even hear a conversation of judgement that
is initiated outside of us, unless there is a "listening"
for it, already INSIDE of us.
Dee
& the kids
- i get that Dr Liz
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, in that situation, it would be joyful acceptance
of the striving to be a better person ...
Dee
& the kids
- AH.....
Dr.
Liz
- Some people don't care about improving. Some people love
it.
Joanne
- I asked myself last night what I can do about the dogs
chained up in my neighborhood. I need to wait for the right
answer. In the mean time, I'll ask everyone. Dr. Liz, gave
me a place to start. Thank-you, Dr. Liz.
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, you are most welcome.
Dee
& the kids
- but we are to accept other regardless of their actions....
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, always remember, you have more rights as a private
individual, bringing the issue to authorities' attention,
than an organization does.
Dee
& the kids
- and hold them in a space of non judgements ...
Joanne
- I don't see it as improving. I see it as a stripping away
to what's underneath. I need to find the diamond hidden
under all the mud.
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, "regardless of their actions" means SEE
their actions, see what's so .. without jugement ... while
also acting appropriately.
kikfrd
- Joanne-that's a great way to describe it.
Dee
& the kids
- right Joanne- "improving" is a perspective...
Joanne
- I borrowed that one from someone!!!
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, I like the metaphor of mud better than the metaphor
of the diamond from coal ... coal takes many years of compression
to make a diamond ... it seems easier to reach into mud
to find a diamond!!!
Joanne
- Dr. Liz, I want to improve the dogs life, not make the
owners give the dog up. Giving the dog up may just mean
a trip to the pound.
Dee
& the kids
- and I guess the knowing of the Oneness of everything make
us know that that diamond IS there always!
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, you first simply must find out what the laws are
in your jurisdiction. Check with animal control.
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, yes.
Joanne
- I will. I also know how poorly the animal controd department
works.
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, last summer, I visited a shore community. It was
almost 100 degrees outside. I saw a dog chained up outside.
No doghouse. No shade. Water bowl was turned over.
Dr.
Liz
- No people in the house.
Dr.
Liz
- Dog alone.
Dee
& the kids
- so- untimately- get ourselves to the point of not even
needed to search for the diamond, know it IS there
Dr.
Liz
- I went and bought a dog house.
Dr.
Liz
- I took the dog house to the property.
Joanne
- This I will do something about, immediately!!!
Dee
& the kids
- good for you Joanne, and those dogs you will surely help
Dr.
Liz
- And I left a note letting them know that it is illegal
in New Jersey to have a dog chained up outside with no humans
and no shade and without a dog house.
Joanne
- Yes, Dee.
Dr.
Liz
- I gave their name and address to the local animal control
organization.
Marge
- good for you, Liz!!!
Joanne
- I left a similar note to someone who had his dogs chained
in the back of his pickup. I suggested he ask his vet about
it.
Dr.
Liz
- I didn't let them know it was me.
Dr.
Liz
- I just did it.
Dr.
Liz
- And the local animal control people checked up on them
later, and they had the dog inside in the air conditioning.
Joanne
- I left my name and number. They never called me.
Dee
& the kids
- Dr Liz- did that dog let you know that its being outside
under cnditions like that was common for it???
Joanne
- They drove with the dog chained.
Dr.
Liz
- All, it's past time for the healing portion of our Chat'N'Pray.
I just looked at a clock.
Dee
& the kids
- oops...lets begin
Dr.
Liz
- Dee, the dog told me they had done it every day for weeks.
kikfrd
- oh no-dr. liz- what about the anger? This will keep me
up all night
Dr.
Liz
- Marianne, do the forgivenesses. I taught Dee and Cheryl,
a long time ago, they're likely to remember how to do them.
Dr.
Liz
- I did eventually have a conversation with the person who
lived in the guest house behind where the dog was chained.
She confirmed it had been outside for weeks.
Joanne
- We are so blind.
kikfrd
- OK. Thanks again Dr. Liz
Dr.
Liz
- She also confirmed that the dog had been inside in the
air conditioning ever since I bought the doghouse.
Dee
& the kids
- how terrible...Dr Liz- you were a blessing for that dog
Dr.
Liz
- I could have taken the dog, legally, it turns out, because
being chained outside without shelter in 100 degree heat
in New Jersey, is abuse and is punishable.
Marge
- as hard as it is to imagine how this could be posssible
... some people just don't think and don't know any better.
Unbelievable!
Joanne
- Do dog houses really cool a dog in the summer? Or is it
just the shade?
Dr.
Liz
- Marge, for these people, it turns out, it was that the
dog wasn't completely housebroken and they didn't want their
floors soiled.
Marge
- very sad.
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, it's the shade that cools.
Marge
- ready for prayers
Dr.
Liz
- All ... let's take a moment now, to choose whatever name
or Names, or even no name, works for you, to represent all
that is sacred, holy, and divine in your life.
Dr.
Liz
- Key that name into the chatroom.
Joanne
- Divine Spirit
Dr.
Liz
- Sacred Universe, Holy Spirit
Marge
- Lord, Sacred Universe
kikfrd
- Divine Universe
Dee
& the kids
- Universal Divine Love
Dr.
Liz
- Take three deep, gentle breaths now, in and out, while
focusing on your name for your God, your Master.
Dr.
Liz
- We call on the names now.
Dr.
Liz
- Sacred Universe, divine Spirit, HOly spirt, LORD< Sacred
Universal, divine Universe, Universal Divine Love ...
Dr.
Liz
- We call on you now ..
Dr.
Liz
- You are in Us, and We are in You ...
Dr.
Liz
- We combine together.
Dr.
Liz
- All that is god, you are ... and all that is good, flows
from you into and through us ...
Dr.
Liz
- We combine together.
Dr.
Liz
- In-fill us now, with your healing power and grace.
Dr.
Liz
- We set our intention, to be of healing service to others.
Dr.
Liz
- Before us is the Basket of Blessings.
Dr.
Liz
- Inside the Basket, are hundreds of prayers, for animals,
people, and situations.
Dr.
Liz
- Bring forth your healing to those animals, prayers, and
situations in the basket, now.
Dr.
Liz
- And it is so.
Dr.
Liz
- Amen.
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Dr.
Liz
- All ... it is time now, to enter any other names of people,
animals, or situations, for whom healing prayer energy is
desired.
Joanne
- Amen
Dee
& the kids
- for GG, Tim, Fannie,Fergus & Grey Cat - that full
healing from their recent CO exposure be now
Dee
& the kids
- that Taki have full healing of the condition in her eye
now
Marge
- amen
Joanne
- For the chimps and primates at New Iberia Research Center
in Louisiana
Cheryl
& kids
- For Taki that we can uncover the source of her "squinting"
eye
kikfrd
- for all of us here, that we may continue to clean off
that diamond of the mud and keep us from piling more on
Dr.
Liz
- Oxygenation and healing of all phelgm and CO2 responses
... clean lungs ... clear blood ... for GG and her 4-legged
friends ...
Dee
& the kids
- amen Kikfrd
Joanne
- For GG, her animal friends, for Taki
Dr.
Liz
- (Cheryl, send me a current photo of Taki and her eye ...)
Joanne
- way to go Kikfrd
Dee
& the kids
- for Kiki- that she be in the field of release of all anger/forgivness
issues, and return to vibrant health now
kikfrd
- for kiki-that she may forgive
Marge
- for all of us here, and for all of our animal friends
Dr.
Liz
- For Kiki, for cooling to her body and mind ...
Joanne
- For Marty and Eileen and the boys, for Jake
Joanne
- For the special gifts each of you bring to this world.
Dr.
Liz
- Joanne, what happened to the chimps and primates?
Dee
& the kids
- for everyone that is touched by Dr Liz and her advice-
that they may listen and create better for all situations
Joanne
- For being brave enough to use them.
Dee
& the kids
- Joanne- thank you
kikfrd
- GO KHARMA!
Dr.
Liz
- For all of you here, to be beacons in your spheres ...
radiators of the love we all share here ...
Dr.
Liz
- (Dee, thank you!).
Marge
- Thank you Liz, and amen to that.
Joanne
- There was an expo on ABC News: Nightline. There's a clip
on the American Humane Society website. These primates were
used for research and terribly abused both physically and
psychologically
Dr.
Liz
- Thank you, Joanne, for explaining that.
Dee
& the kids
- a big thank you to the creator of all the beautiful flowers
that Dr Liz throughly enjoyed, that that experience uplift
other the way it did Dr Liz
Dr.
Liz
- Peace to the bodies, peace to the souls, peace to the
emotions, peace to the minds, of the chimps and primates,
at the Louisiana center.
Joanne
- They're trying to pass a Great Ape Protection Act.
Dee
& the kids
- amen
Joanne
- Amen
Cheryl
& kids
- (Thanks Dr. Liz...just took a photo and emailed it to
you)
kikfrd
- amen
Dee
& the kids
- a prayer that the energy of Unconditional Love swell within
us so that space is easy for us to hold
Joanne
- Dee, how beautiful.
Marge
- I must go now ... night all, and God Bless
Joanne
- Night, Marge.
Dee
& the kids
- nite Marge
kikfrd
- Good night everyone!
Marge
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Cheryl
& kids
- Good night Marge--Unconditional Love to you!
Dee
& the kids
- im off too...blessings to you all!
Joanne
- Good night kikfrd.
Joanne
- Dee, is it true you practice reiki?
Dr.
Liz
- Good night, everyone ... thank you for joining in! Thank
you for being who you are!
Dee
& the kids
- yes Joanne I do
Dr.
Liz
- Blessings and see you next time! Love you!
Dr.
Liz
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Joanne
- Thank-you Dr. Liz and good night
Joanne
- I have some ability but I'm sort of stuck at a certain
level.
Joanne
- I don't see colors. I do see auras.
Dee
& the kids
- Joanne- what are you experiencing??/
Joanne
- What was the journey like to get to your stage?
Dee
& the kids
- Joanne- not everyone "sees' the same things...if
you sense color, or even just auras, you can get a reading
from that alone
Joanne
- Mostly, I can radiate "energy."
Dee
& the kids
- its been 8 years...I started out just laying on of hands
as a gut feeling to do when my cat Zoe got sick...
Dee
& the kids
- i learnig what I was doing and have studies to level 3
Reiki Master
Joanne
- It's very undirected. I have sent healing energy from
a distance once and the dog acknowledged it.
Joanne
- I guess I'm just asking for advice to take the next step.
Dee
& the kids
- but through continual practice, it has gotten stronger
and my abilities heighten
Dee
& the kids
- have you taken a reiki course??
Joanne
- sometime I think I'm just not disciplined enough
Joanne
- no,
Dee
& the kids
- sending energy is obviously natural for you (as it was
for me)
Joanne
- haven't had the money or the time.
Dee
& the kids
- reiki is beautiful because you learn "what"
you are sending as far as energy goes
Joanne
- perhaps it's time I found both now
Dee
& the kids
- even just a reiki 1 course or reading about reiki will
help you get a better understanding of what energy can do
Joanne
- actually I've had more exposure to healing touch
Joanne
- any books you recommend?
Dee
& the kids
- and once you have an understanding of that...learn about
chakras- do you know about chakras??
Dee
& the kids
- what healing touch are you speaking of??
Joanne
- yes, I can sense them but that's about it
Dee
& the kids
- b/c reiki IS healing touch
Joanne
- It's practiced in many hospitals. I believe it's the same,
perhaps just taught differently.
Dee
& the kids
- that is GREAT...once you get an understanding of what
each chakra does, and if you can sense them, you can feel
where enregy is needed in a body
Dee
& the kids
- and you send it there...
Joanne
- I'm not disciplined enough. My mind wanders.
Joanne
- Which do I tackle first?
Dee
& the kids
- learning reiki just gives you some structure, but I admit,
that I do what "feels" right..it does include
reiki techniques, but also what I feel to do
Dee
& the kids
- the beauty of reiki is that the energy you send, knows
where to go on its own, you just set your intention to be
a channel of the energy, but your totatl focus /understanding
isn't critical ( i believe)
Joanne
- a friend taught me accupressure. I used it on bear but
I was using too much energy. I don't know when to stop.
Dee
& the kids
- I would suggest learning about chakras- books, internet...much
info out there..
Joanne
- He got too sore and didn't want me to do it anymore.
Dee
& the kids
- do yo meditate at all??
Joanne
- so-so.
Joanne
- I don't do it consistently.
Dee
& the kids
- reiki energy is much more subtle...you don't even need
to touch the body..I recall whe I started teh energy was
too much for Zoe- she would get up, move away from be about
3 feet and I would beem the energy to her...Dr Liz aksed
her and she said that was where teh energy felt most comfortable
Joanne
- I don't know why. I know it's important.
Dee
& the kids
- meditation is important, but I know that the most important
thing is sending this healing love energy if it calls to
you
Joanne
- I found the accupressure spots on my own body by mistake.
I just sense where they are. I don't need to touch to send
energy.
Dee
& the kids
- if you meditate- things can come to you to help you modify
your techniques...but also meeting others who do it and
offer their techniques etc help tremendously
Joanne
- I feel like I'm where I was before I quit smoking. I know
I need to do it but I just can't make myself do it consistently.
Dee
& the kids
- that is great....
Dee
& the kids
- I admit, Zoe need made it very important for me to focus
on, if I didnt have that, i may have started out slower
Joanne
- Lots of times I'm in the ah ha spot naturally. But I need
more discipline.
Dee
& the kids
- but when I put focus into it...it really made me feel
complete..i knew in my heart that I needed to keep it up
Joanne
- I'm wondering if there is something I need to learn before
I'll be able to take the next step.
Dee
& the kids
- obviously, any dedicated training will help
Joanne
- Nothing locally unfortunately.
Dee
& the kids
- Just pray or set your intention that you want to learn
and that the appropriate teacher present, and be open to
what comes
Joanne
- Thank-you so much. You've given me a feel for where I
need to go.
Dee
& the kids
- I learned a lot from books I picked up...just went to
book stores and found that I gravitated to wards books on
the shelf
Joanne
- I will do so. Thank-you.
Dee
& the kids
- it will be a continuous process, just recently for me
my healing took on another level where I now can remotely
sense someones energy and get a whole psychic reading on
them
Joanne
- Wow, tell me more.
Joanne
- Are you reading their emotional health?
Dee
& the kids
- I About a year ago I started getting terrible headaches,
I could not figure out what was wrong, all tests showed
nothing. I went to a crystal healer who did a healing on
me...after that I now can do more with my own healing...she
removed a fear block in my third eye chakra that I did not
know was there, she helped remove it, and my third eye must
have opened more
Dee
& the kids
- emotional health - yes, which affects their physical health
and I can sense that too
Joanne
- What have you picked up?
Dee
& the kids
- it sounds like you have a lot of natural ability, and
once you learn what you can do with it, I thnk you will
find what you will gravitate to as far as where to go next
Dee
& the kids
- emotional issues and the physical dis-eases that have
or will follow b/c of them..and I can help people to be
aware of what they might be ignoring to help them heal and
release
Joanne
- That is so important!! Do they listen??
Dee
& the kids
- you sound like you can also send energy to others that
help them release blockages in their energy centers that
can help to set teh stage for physical healing
Dee
& the kids
- so far they do listen, though not everyone is ready to
do the work...and they find their issues persits
Joanne
- I'm not sure. I feel what's going out. I just don't sense
the result.
Dee
& the kids
- just the fact that you can already feel the energy is
the hardest part...just learn so "rules" and you
will go far with it I feel
Joanne
- Thank-you. I wonder. I suspect I'm going to use my healing
ability in a very novel way. I don't think it will be traditional
reiki but I don't know what it will be yet. I just keep
taking one step forward.
Joanne
- I suspect I need to take another step.
Dee
& the kids
- it is just learning that where you feel the energy disruptance
is where the issue sts...EX- if feel energy in the throat
is "off", then you can research what the throat
chakra holds, and you can know the issues associated in
this place...you can then help to apply what the chakra
stands for to what the person may be dong in their lives
to created the energy imbalance they are suffering from
Dee
& the kids
- I do not just use traditional reiki weither...it has morphed
over the years...i go by gut now
Dee
& the kids
- there is also a grat book...How to heal your life- by
Louise hay....
Dee
& the kids
- it tells you the emotional cause of all physical dis-eases....
Joanne
- I sense your strength in this area. I'm not sure I'll
be able to... No I think my strength will be psychological.
My whole life has been a morph. I nevr do anything the traditional
way.
Joanne
- I've heard of it. I'll try to pick it up.
Dee
& the kids
- it helps you know that a negative enrgy pattern caused
the illness, and a positive one can relsease it...allowing
for physical healing...which you as a sender of energy can
help with
Joanne
- It's also going to have something to do with horses...
maybe dogs too.
Joanne
- I understand what you just said. I believe it -- I've
experienced it and that helps.
Dee
& the kids
- There isSo much psychological reasoning behind how to
change the energy...you can send healing energy to someone,
but if they do not know how to hold this shifted higher
energy, they will not heal...I feel the psychological side
helps others to understasn WHAT they need to do/change
Joanne
- But they need to be ready ... that's the problem and also
their protection.
Dee
& the kids
- and your focus may be horses...and I know helping animals
often helps the owners of those animals too...people learn
so much from animlas
Dee
& the kids
- right, that is why if you choose to send energy- it must
be with Unconditional Love...they do with it what they choose...heal-
not heal...you ssend and disconnect
Joanne
- Have you heard of Equine Facilitated Psychotherapy?
Dee
& the kids
- no...what is that?
Joanne
- What a wonderful perspective? I'll remember that.
Joanne
- It's hard to explain. The horses help move the person's
energy to help them heal.
Dee
& the kids
- I know that many people that i have helped have be introduced
through their animals...they see healing and know there
is something to it..then they are open to try it
Dee
& the kids
- animals often are here to helpp us elevate and heal...it
is part of their contract with us while we are here
Joanne
- Perhaps that is there animal's role in healing them.
Dee
& the kids
- animals are wonderful door openers :)
Joanne
- Ah, we are on the same wavelength.
Joanne
- That has been the case with all my animals. They got the
short end of the deal.
Dee
& the kids
- Dr Liz told me after Zoe's passing, that she connected
with her and told me that Zoes illness was part of a sacred
contract we had to help me find the path to healing in this
lifetime...I always thanks Zoe for her sacrifice of her
health to teach me, but Zoe was adimant through Dr Liz that
I understand is was no sacrifice, but a sacred contract
played out beautifully
Joanne
- So much of my life that appears so randomed has turned
out not to be. It's scary. It's like a movie.
Dee
& the kids
- so you are definatly knowing of your path....the love
you will feel with help you focus
Dee
& the kids
- no such thing as coincidence...all for a reason
Joanne
- All the players both people and animals -- we have all
been together before -- it was all prearranged.
Dee
& the kids
- hindsight is 20-20....
Joanne
- If you told me this would happen ten years ago I would
have laughed in your face.
Dee
& the kids
- right...it helps to crearte a peace within- knowing that
teh animals are here "with" us , not for us
Joanne
- It's been an amazing journey.
Joanne
- I am so grateful to them.
Dee
& the kids
- me too...lol...this healing path came so unexpectdle,
but I am greatful for it...it is how/why i met Dr liz and
have learnign SOOOO much from her
Joanne
- I'm not sure what role Dr. Liz will play in my life but
she has made me think, I just hope I can give back.
Dee
& the kids
- it helps to have a support system to help bounce things
off of what youare starting to learn and focus all of this-
i was lucky to have found all the people I did
Dee
& the kids
- great
Dee
& the kids
- where are you located???
Joanne
- I'll send you an email and explain...
Dee
& the kids
- perfect...
Dee
& the kids
- im gonna go now...getting late....can';t wait to hear
from you
Dee
& the kids
- any time : )
Joanne
- Thanks.
Dee
& the kids
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