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Dee & Jake - Hi Dr Liz
Dr. Liz - Hi!
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Dr. Liz - Jane LOL everything okay?
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Dee & Jake - Hi RT
RosieTara - Hi everybody !
jane - Yes, Dr. Liz - thanks for asking - except if I will have any time to discuss a local situation where I think it might affect anyone?
Dr. Liz - Hi, RT! Glad you could make it!
Dr. Liz - Jane, what's up?
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Dee & Jake - hi kikfrd
kikfrd - Hello everyone! It's been too long.
Dr. Liz - Hi, Kikfrd!
RosieTara - Fridays at lunchtime is always difficult for me..:)
Dr. Liz - RT, I'm glad you're here now. Nice to have lunch with you.. :)
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RosieTara - Hi kikfrd
Dee & Jake - Hi GG!
RosieTara - LOL, Liz !
GirlyGirls - Hi, all
jane - We have a case here where a "friend" of the local Sheriff - went into his niece’s yard and said he was going to shoot her dog - he went home and got his gun and came back and shot the dog 13 times - the niece took a video with her camera (instead of removing the dog from harm) - her uncle is a "Buddy" of the sheriff's department - he said that no charges would ever be brought against him - and he was right - the sheriff's dept dropped any charges.
kikfrd - Hi Kids!
RosieTara - Hi GirlyGirls
Dr. Liz - Jane, have you contacted PETA?
kikfrd - oh no Jane
Dee & Jake - jane- that is horrible!
Dr. Liz - And have you released the video to the Internet, to YouTube, and to the local news?
RosieTara - That is terrible, Jane !!!!!
GirlyGirls - Hi, Rosie. I'm really supposed to be practicing, so may not hang long, or come back for the prayer.
Dr. Liz - Hi, GG!
GirlyGirls - Fannie wanted to say hi.
GirlyGirls - Why did he shoot her dog?
GirlyGirls - Hi, Liz.
Dr. Liz - Awwww, GG ... alrighty then ... "HI" to Fannie!
Dee & Jake - kikfrd(I have a session with Dr Liz Saturday for Jake) : )
jane - Yes - it is horrible - this is the South - I am writing a letter to the sheriff's dept about this now - there is no reason why he shot the dog at all - according to the niece - he just did it - the dog was chained (which I think is also horrible)
jane - But the case has been dropped as the "family" will resolve the issue.
GirlyGirls - If I were the niece, I would have gotten my own gun. . If not, a shovel and killed him. Sorry, but true.
Dee & Jake - Jane - such stories upset me so much, I really cannot understand how people can be this way
RosieTara - This makes me feeling sick....Jane! Poor soul!
GirlyGirls - That person is a waste of human flesh to do such a thing.
jane - So you can just go off and shoot someone and tell the sheriff's dept that it is OK - your family will resolve the issue - it makes me sick too - we have to pray for a resolution to this for the good of all.
Dee & Jake - One can only hope is was this dogs path in this life to bring about awareness of such atrocities. and its job here was done. and it is at peace
jane - None of this makes sense- except he can probably go and shoot the niece too and get away with it.
RosieTara - GG true !
Dr. Liz - Jane, can you get the video?
jane - Maybe so Dee & Jake - that is what I always think - this happens for a reason - the local newspaper will more than likely NOT print this story.
GirlyGirls - Well, yes, Jane. The desire and action to harm an animal is usually a marker for someone who would do the same to another person.
Dr. Liz - Jane, do you know the niece personally?
RosieTara - GG..true, too !
jane - Dr. Liz- the niece made a video from her camera - the sheriff's office "took" the video from her - later said that it was of very poor quality. But the sheriff DID make a report that he found 10 casings and the dead dog that the uncle had thrown into the bayou after pumping he shots into the dog. jane - Dr. Liz - I do not know any of these people - the niece called our PAWS hotline because she did not know what to do afterwards.
Dr. Liz - Jane, can you get a copy of that report?
GirlyGirls - I'd move. can you move?
Dr. Liz - What did PAWS advise her?
RosieTara - This needs to be reported !!!
jane - We advised her to report to the sheriff as she did - there are no other options here - the local newspaper will not print anything that is controversial with animals (at least not usually)...
kikfrd - and if it's the good ole boys network down there, they need to be careful
jane - dr. Liz - we will get a copy of the report (although there is not an arrest or ticket issued. This should be aggravated animal cruelty because it was totally PLANNED! This is a felony in Louisiana. It is just getting law enforcement officers to ENFORCE the laws here!
RosieTara - Report it to the next available local TV station, Jane...
Dr. Liz - Jane, sometimes one has to go outside of one's geographical area in order to get proper attention to something going on inside one's area.
kikfrd - not that I like to promote fear but you just cannot trust those from the deep south :-)
jane - And yes, Kikfrd - it is the good ole boys network.
GirlyGirls - Reminds me of our family story in Birmingham. . .the KKK didn't like my father's family, Sicilian immigrants, too dark skinned. They came along and took shots at the porch while they were all sitting out there and my great grandfather was killed, in front of all. . .
RosieTara - Yes , Liz , that is the way to go !
Dee & Jake - It's a sin that this isn't something that everyone takes seriously
kikfrd - oh my goodness GG
jane - Dr. Liz - if I have to go to PETA or the HSUS I will - we have done that lately. We finally busted a snake farm out here in Oakdale that was feeding "free" animals to their snakes - I cannot get too graphic - it is too horrible !
GirlyGirls - They knew who did it. it went to court and he was told by the judge to get out of town for a few weeks until things settled down, and that was it! That Judge went on to become supreme court Justice Black, under Lyndon Johnson.
Dr. Liz - Unfortunately, animals have no legal rights in the U.S. They do in other countries, including the entire European Union, but not here.
RosieTara - Journalists and reporter are ALWAYS interested in a "good story"
Dr. Liz - Jane, you do have to go to PETA and to HSUS.
kikfrd - GET OUT!!
Dee & Jake - Animals are considered property! How disgusting
jane - Yes, RT - but these days - they are so limited by their own papers and what they are allowed to print - it is becoming more prevalent these days.
Dr. Liz - In Switzerland, for example, there is a "sentient being" law ... animals and plants are both considered sentient beings ... they have rights, and can be represented in court by lawyers.
GirlyGirls - It can be a very strange culture in the south. .. Maryland has its own redneck vibe that is similar. . .and they do protect their own.
Dr. Liz - It is illegal, in Switzerland, for someone to arbitrarily lop off the heads of roadside flowers.
RosieTara - Yes. Liz isn't that fantastic...my daughter told me about it
Dr. Liz - It is illegal to harm an animal willfully in any way,
Dr. Liz - It is also illegal to give an animal up to a shelter.
jane - Dr. Liz - here in Louisiana - animals are the lowest of the lowest beings! If it moves, it will be shot and put in the "gumbo."
kikfrd - I'm just hearing about it for the first time and that is wonderful!
RosieTara - Animals finally have a VOICE !!!
jane - Some countries have made great strides in the care of its animals. Bless them !
Dr. Liz - Another aspect of the sentient being law covers agriculture/farm animals ... they, too, must be treated humanely, unlike here in the U.S., where the animal husbandry and agricultural lobby are free to do whatever they want, including torturing animals if they feel like it.
RosieTara - But WHY is the way it is ???
Dr. Liz - Jane, the entire European Union, led by Switzerland, Germany, and Norway, definitely have.
Dee & Jake - hopefully that ideal mindset will spread
RosieTara - I am proud to be German...:))))
Dr. Liz - RT, the EU countries feel (as does much of the world) that the U.S. is tainted even toxic with greed, and that it's greed blinds it to the oneness of all sentient beings.
GirlyGirls - My cousin raises goats and cows, and some end up in slaughter. She has a policy with herself, she must accompany the animal to the slaughter and observe, and if the day comes she can no longer do that, she will no longer raise animals for food.
RosieTara - and Aussie...:))
jane - Well, Dr. Liz - we know what the conditions of the farm animals here in the US are. I do not want to get too controversial here - but people here will go out on a limb to save a starving cow - but go home and eat a hamburger - I cannot get them to see the correlation. I know there is a great debate about eating animals.
RosieTara - So sad....Liz !
Dr. Liz - I just started a movement here, in NJ, with the goal of getting some kind of animal rights law passed here. I'd love to have it be like the Swiss' sentient being law.
Dee & Jake - GG- it takes a strong person to be able to witness that
jane - Dr.Liz - I believe the greed is eaten along with the animal.
jane - Bless you, Dr. Liz! That is so terrific.
GirlyGirls - She observes to be sure it is done in the most humane way possible. I asked her how she could stand it, and she said, she sold two of her goats to someone once, and continually saw them tied up in the hot sun with no shelter when she drove by. Despite her efforts, it continued. She said that was far more painful for her.
RosieTara - Blessings to that...Liz !
Dee & Jake - amen to that being passed Dr Liz
Dr. Liz - Jane, the Swiss with their enlightened understanding, have realized something I wrote in one of my books almost 15 years ago ... that the fear and torture one inflicts on an animal, gets into the meat of the animal, and then whoever eats that animal, gets that energy. They actually have a law now that any animal producer not humanely slaughtering their animals, is disallowed from importing their meat products to Switzerland.
GirlyGirls - We are human, and being carnivores is not outside of our nature.
RosieTara - The older I get the more I like animals more than humans !!! Sorry girls !
GirlyGirls - I have a much bigger problem with the support of partial birth abortion than I do with eating meat!
jane - GG - it is like 4-H here - the kids grow up with the animals - the animals win prizes for them - the animals bring their families together and keep the kids out of trouble - then - what happens to the animals - they are sent to slaughter!
Dee & Jake - and to think I’m losing sleep now b/c my dog it itching too much...God I LOVE animals!
RosieTara - Liz, this is the only way for the slaughtered animal to pay back , I guess
jane - Dr. Liz - you should be proud of me - I have thought this for many years now - that you eat the ENERGY and pain of that animal who goes to slaughter - I will never forget the PETA videos of slaughterhouses. Animals do not deserve this kind of life and death.
GirlyGirls - My cousin doesn't show animals. She raises them well, with good organic feed, takes loving care of them. It is the farm way of life, that is all.
Dr. Liz - RT, I never thought of it that way, but it IS a payback ... anyone who eats the flesh of an inhumanely slaughtered animal, will ingest that inhumanity.
GirlyGirls - She does her utmost to ensure a good life for all of her animals. Even the ones destined for slaughter get affection and excellent food and care.
RosieTara - My daughter is vegetarian and always tells us YOU EAT FEAR !! She is a Vet ,too !:))
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Dee & Jake - Hi Sheila
Dr. Liz - The countries of the world vary so much in their attitudes about life ... human animal or non-human animal life ... and the sanctity of that life, or not.
GirlyGirls - Not all places are such slaughterhouses, to my knowledge. My cousin uses someone locally, it is not a production line.
Dr. Liz - Hi, Sheila!
Sheila - Good Evening everyone.
jane - GG - respectfully - there is no humane - non-violent way to slaughter an animal. That they have a good life is better than living in a factory farm in horrible conditions.
RosieTara - Hi Sheila !
jane - Hi Sheila
Dr. Liz - GG, the Swiss have created very clear laws on what is humane and what isn't, and how an animal can be slaughtered, and how it can't.
jane - RT - bless your daughter - she lives what she preaches.
RosieTara - Has somebody ever been /seen a slaughterhouse ?
Dr. Liz - Yes, I have.
jane - I have only seen the videos. I wasn't even sure if I could handle that much.
Dr. Liz - RT, your daughter is wise. Although plants feel fear, too.
Dr. Liz - That's why the Swiss have included plants in their sentient being law.
RosieTara - Liz, I have ,too, I will never forget the Fear I saw in the cows, pigs and chucks eyes !!!
Dee & Jake - that is beautiful, that plants are honored as well
GirlyGirls - Jane, once a local vet, who is considered to be a "healer", put down one of my sick kitties so abruptly the cat screamed when she died. I had never had to euthanize an animal before and didn't realize what had happened until later.
Dr. Liz - I suspect since Emoto (Miracle Messages from Water) went to Switzerland to research water purity after he left Japan 10 or so years ago, that his studies have strongly influenced the Swiss consciousness.
kikfrd - but doesn't almost every animal that is about to be consumed have that look of fear?
Dee & Jake - Emoto's works are amazing!
RosieTara - I know Liz. Dr Rudolf Steiner ( by the way ,he is Swiss !) teaches that in his lectures
jane - Dr. Liz - that plants feel fear has been shown in lots of experiments - Clive Barker - was it? they have had these shows on Coast to Coast for many years - Dr. Emoto and his water studies have been on Coast for years.
Dr. Liz - RT, yes, that fear strikes through one's soul.
GirlyGirls - So what may appear violent may be more humane in intent, than something that appears humane in intent.
Dr. Liz - Kikfrd, not all of them.
Dee & Jake - really Dr Liz??
jane - Dr. Liz - have you ever communicated with a factory farm animal that was going to slaughter?
kikfrd - well I guess an animal in the wild understands eat or be eaten, where farm animals may not be subjected to that?
Dr. Liz - GG, sometimes there's overlap. For example, the quickest way to euthanize a horse with a broken leg who might otherwise be left to be ripped apart alive by coyotes, is a single gunshot to the head.
RosieTara - Kikfrd, some animals show you they are ready to go.....
Dr. Liz - So the gunshot may appear violent, but it is also the most humane form of euthanasia in that situation.
GirlyGirls - Liz, in your book, you say that when animals are killed in hunt, or by another animal in the food chain, there is a different energy for them around it. I'm paraphrasing, do correct me if wrong.
kikfrd - RT-even healthy animals?
GirlyGirls - Yes Liz, that is my point.
jane - Are there any farm animals out there who are content with their lives on a factory farm - contained and forced to breed - or the little veal calves who are separated from their mothers, etc...
Dee & Jake - DR LIZ- Jake is behind me itching, he needs a pull...should I give it to him and the new remedy?)
Dee & Jake - needs a pill
RosieTara - No, kikfrd....sick animals...my Rosie did :(
kikfrd - that's what I was getting at GG. :-)
Dr. Liz - GG, that is what I have sensed, yes. There is always, in that situation, an exchange between natural predator and natural prey, an understanding that passes back and forth ... because even natural predators know that at some point they will be prey, too.
GirlyGirls - Factory farms are a different energy from what I witness with my family and friends in NH.
Dr. Liz - Dee, for now, yes.
Dee & Jake - I guess it is a balance for them, an understanding
Dee & Jake - ok..BRB
Dr. Liz - GG, yes, a very different energy.
kikfrd - yes RT. That I understand. Kiki had to tell me (and only once :-)
Dr. Liz - Farm raised animals that have free range and eat their natural foods, are always in a very different energy from those that aren't.
RosieTara - GG oh yes!
GirlyGirls - Frankly, I am upset by finding out that the goat I helped deliver (and who was named after me) ended up in the freezer with my name on the package ("Nel)
Dr. Liz - Jane, if there are any farm animals who are content in that situation, I haven't met them.
jane - I have never cared for hunters - how someone can take the life of another being is beyond me - but I told a friend last week (he is the significant other of a good friend) - at least whatever he kills is shot instantly - they have had a good life - they do not have to ride on a big semi truck for days of travel through all kinds f increment weather - to go to slaughter - they had a life - they were s hot and dead. It is over very quickly - and the people use it for food (not me).
Dr. Liz - GG ... yes, I can see where that would be upsetting.
GirlyGirls - Nel's Son (Nelson). When she asked to name one of her cows Nellie, I told her the condition was that it could never be slaughtered. Funny, this cow moooos loudly all the time, she calls her Nellie the Discontented Cow (I say she is singing like me), and teases Nellie the cow is lucky we struck a deal.
RosieTara - It is anew trend here in Australia...nobody buys factory laid eggs anymore only free ranged laid eggs..
RosieTara - range ..of course
Sheila - We have a 12 old Choc lab and I see a gradual change in his body and I read and re-read your book and just hope I will know from him when it is his time.
GirlyGirls - But, despite it Liz, I respect their lives and how they live them.
Dr. Liz - Jane, I am in the interesting position that both my father and my stepfather were excellent riflemen ... and both hunted but only for food ... and they brought home whatever they killed. My stepfather was also an extremely accomplished salmon fisherman, he won contests even in Alaska, and he always shared the salmon he caught.
RosieTara - Sheila...Liz's book is a blessing for the animals....so we (the humans) can understand them
kikfrd - Shelia, it used to worry me sick that I would miss the sign from Kiki. Once they tell you-you WILL know
Dr. Liz - So both my Dad and my Step-Dad were very conscious hunters. I actually didn't know about the "other kind" of hunter for many years.
RosieTara - I did "hear" my Rosie...
GirlyGirls - These are the same people that rescued a horse, actually STOLE a horse from a testing lab in the middle of the night. Very neatly planned. . .and this horse lives to this day 15 years later, very happily at my cousin's place.
Sheila - Kikfrd, Oh, yes I agree
Dr. Liz - Sheila, most animals will tell you when it's time. And if you're not sure, you can always have a session either by telephone, or, you can bring him to me at one of my in-person events.
GirlyGirls - Everybody in the area knows about it, her vet friend helped her do it, but nobody gave them up when the newspapers reported it. The horse was being tortured with the testing, she heard about it from some kid who worked in the office.
jane - I hope that awareness is rising about the cruelty these animals endure. I know here in Louisiana - my friends shop for "free range and cage-free eggs - and free range chickens - although I believe that some companies will lie through their teeth and just hope that they do not get audited and fined. or pay off the ADA.
Dee & Jake - Sheila...if you are connected..you Will know
GirlyGirls - It took her a couple years to get him healthy again.
RosieTara - GG what a great story !
Dr. Liz - GG, that's a great story.
Sheila - Thank you, Dr. Liz I will keep that in mind.
GirlyGirls - Free range can just mean they are outside of cages for 20 minutes a day -- did you know that? that's the government definition for labeling!
GirlyGirls - (Glad you liked the story!)
Dr. Liz - GG, I didn't know that.
jane - I have no problem with "stealing" an abused animal GG - I have had two little 85 year old lady friends who "stole" several chained up abuse/neglected dogs and found them great homes.
Dee & Jake - GG- that is a great story
GirlyGirls - Yes, Liz. So I go for the small farm stand, locals.
RosieTara - GG no I didn't....:((((
Sheila - did not know that, what a scam!
Dr. Liz - Jane, that would make a great movie ... the two little 85-year-old women who steal abused animals and find great homes for them!!!!
Dr. Liz - GG, I buy at the Fair Food Farm stand in the Reading Terminal Market. :)
GirlyGirls - The other funny part of the story, is an old guy worked nights in the lab. My cousin swears he knew what they were up to, fake ID, etc, and all, and wanted them to take the horse so he just looked at them in the eye and helped them.
jane - GG - I didn't know that either - most people are misinformed and think that they are doing the BEST they can.
RosieTara - LOL , Jane
kikfrd - Careful-it may be Dee and I in 40 years :-)
Sheila - Now, I know what I can do when I retire.
Dr. Liz - Sheila LOL LOL LOL
Dee & Jake - its not fair how we are tricked into thinking one thing because of labeling
RosieTara - I buy my eggs at the weekly Farmer's market
Dr. Liz - I have a friend who goes into Camden at night and steals abused dogs.
GirlyGirls - Yes, the Lancaster Farmers are best. They don't have the time, energy, or money to deal with pesticides, and government paperwork, from what I understand.
Dee & Jake - kikfrd- well 85 & 89...lol
GirlyGirls - LOL! Liz, that's great!
Dr. Liz - Dee, I agree with you ...
GirlyGirls - I stole Fergus, you know!
jane - Dr. Liz - both of these women died in 2006 - one of them had a son who is a good friend said to me - Jane - mom and Carol were two old battleaxes - they just don't make them like them any more! He was right. I miss them terribly.
Sheila - I buy eggs at the Amish Market.
RosieTara - I would love to do that ...have to find a mate for that first...:))y
Dr. Liz - Jane, I'm sorry to hear that they're gone. What a lovely wonderful and strong energy they must have radiated.
GirlyGirls - When Gray Cat was still a stray, and I saw Fergus' owners go after Gray with a shovel and stopped them, I realized, there was a reason Fergus was always trying to break into my house. The next morning, I was leaving for NH for two weeks, and grabbed Fergus and put him in the car with Pinky and Fannie.
jane - You gotta love the term "battle axes" !!
kikfrd - Dee-we have to see if the Amish are still at grow-rite! Jake needs eggs
Dee & Jake - kikfrd- I was just thinking the same thingLOLOLOL
Dr. Liz - Kikfrd ... unfortunately the Amish are legendary animal abusers.
jane - They were both wonderful women and very strong - considering when they grew up - both were musicians, choir directors, choir members, volunteers in the community - animal lovers.....
GirlyGirls - I think "battle-axe" certainly was coined because of the old ladies who often work in parish rectories.
GirlyGirls - They can be formidable, and strange gatekeepers.
Sheila - Amish consider dogs as livestock.
kikfrd - I just did a gasp of shock! I mean, I understood their animals worked but I would have hoped it was a partnership
GirlyGirls - really, Liz!
jane - GG - ha ha ha - you just made me laugh out loud.
GirlyGirls - They objectify the animals, I guess.
GirlyGirls - (:-) Jane
GirlyGirls - Big storm, have to get the boys in!
Dr. Liz - Some of the puppy mills we've shut down in the past two years, in Pennsylvania, are Amish.
kikfrd - oh no
RosieTara - Thanks for the American history lesson...:))
Dr. Liz - Or at least tried to shut down. We've gotten some laws passed, but unfortunately, they're not really being enforced that consistently.
jane - The Amish are VERY hard on their animals - and aren't they known for breeding dogs? They are very hard on their horses - I knew someone who adopted a "retired" work horse from the Amish - she was on the animal communicators group on Yahoo - this horse never knew love in his whole life - just hard work - his body hurt all over - they were going to send him to slaughter - this woman rescued him and her story would make anyone cry. His name was Leroy - he taught us more on his group than most could ever do - about life and love. He dropped dead last year. I can still cry about him.
Dee & Jake - really Dr Liz?!?
Dr. Liz - Dee, yes.
jane - that is the problem with getting laws passed - but it is a necessity - the problem is getting the laws enforced!
Dee & Jake - all thing news make me feel very uninformed...is anything safe these days...who can you trust?
GirlyGirls - Boys in.
Dr. Liz - Dee, it would appear we can trust the Swiss.
RosieTara - Oh Jane....you really meet the sad animals in your life....
Dr. Liz - At least as far as animal well-being is concerned.
Dee & Jake - yes
GirlyGirls - Precious few people are worthy of trust, that is what I am finding out, and is the source of much of my pain of late.
kikfrd - LOL!! Go Switzerland!!
GirlyGirls - I just don't get it.
Sheila - I believe there is far more good in the world than bad,
jane - That is true RT - but you learn so much by their stories - I loved Leroy so much and still do. He taught me so much about courage!
RosieTara - Not a bad place to be...Switzerland !
Dr. Liz - Well then ... perhaps we can add to our prayers this evening, that people worthy of the highest trust be made present for us, in Grace and Perfect ways.
GirlyGirls - Shall we pray and dispel the pain of these stories?
Dee & Jake - dr Liz- talking about trust...remember a while back I told you about cutting Jakes nails and how difficult it was, the vets wanted to sedate him..you gave me excellent advice...works like a charm, I’ve even nipped him, and he is still ok with me doing it
Sheila - Yes.
RosieTara - Jane that is good :)
kikfrd - Absolutely!
Dr. Liz - And that we have quicker and quicker discernment, for those not worthy of our trust.
GirlyGirls - Can we clarify and say ONLY people worthy of the highest trust. .. ?
Dr. Liz - Dee, I'm happy to learn that it's better and easier for both of you! Good job!
jane - GG - you are so right - trust is so precious and trust should be handed out carefully.
RosieTara - YES, Liz !
GirlyGirls - I have some of them in my life, it's the other ones I never see coming, because I just don't get it.
Dr. Liz - GG, yes!
Dee & Jake - calm & patience was the key
Dr. Liz - So ... let's do our prayer session now ...
Dr. Liz - So ... in beginning ... please choose a Name, that works for you, to represent all that is Sacred, Holy, and Divine in your life, and key it into the ChatRoom.
Dee & Jake - Divine Love
Dr. Liz - Sacred Universe, Holy Spirit
jane - Universe
Sheila - Holy Spirit
RosieTara - Dear Father in Heaven
GirlyGirls - I Am
kikfrd - Universe
Dr. Liz - Divine Love, Sacred Universe, Holy Spirit, Dear Father in Heaven, I AM, Universe
Dr. Liz - We call on you now, to be in us, as we are in you ...
Dr. Liz - We know that You are in Us, and We are In Your. We know that we combine together.
Dr. Liz - Before us now, is the Basket of Blessings, containing prayer requests from many hundreds of people ...
Dr. Liz - Please take a moment now, and infill even more powerfully, with the energy of your chosen Named Holy One ...
Dr. Liz - Breathe deeply, in and out ...
Dr. Liz - Feeling your Sacred Beloved ...
Dr. Liz - Merging with Your Sacred Beloved ...
Dr. Liz - And send energy in whatever way works for you, to those in the Basket ...
Dr. Liz - it is so.
GirlyGirls - It is so.
Dr. Liz - May Grace be rendered unto those in the Basket, in perfect timing, in Grace and Perfect Ways, with harm to none.
Dr. Liz - Amen.
Dee & Jake - And it is so!
jane - Amen
Sheila - it is so
Dr. Liz - It is time now, to enter the names of any other people, animals, or situations, for whom healing prayer energy is requested.
kikfrd - Amen
Sheila - Amen.
jane - It is so
RosieTara - Amen !
Dr. Liz - For Nicole, that a way to be healed, whole, happy, and healthy, be brought forth for her now.
jane - Please send prayers for me - work is so very stressful at this time of budget cuts - please pray for the place I work - that these troubled people that we are admitting in can have some peace of mind and healing.
Sheila - Michael and Blaine
GirlyGirls - For Buddy the dog of Wyndmoor, PA and his loving human, Eileen, healing, protection, and faith.
kikfrd - For Dee-that she may get to the bottom of her kids persistent issues :-)
Dee & Jake - for Sam, as he continue to grow, that his "environment" be a safe place for him to grow
Dr. Liz - For Jim, that his possible contract to do work in Dubai, be brought forth lucratively and successfully for him.
jane - Please send prayers to the dog who was shot 13 times for no reason by the friend of the sheriff - may justice be done
RosieTara - For Tara that she will be happy with Auntie Rosie
Dr. Liz - For peace to those being admitted where Jane works.
GirlyGirls - For John H. of Philadelphia, healing from the torment of pain from shingles.
Dee & Jake - for the dog who suffered such injustice, his soul be at peace
jane - For everyone in this group - whatever your issues are - bless you.
kikfrd - For Cat, Fred & I-that we may continue our transformation and growth
Dee & Jake - for those who Jane is asking prayers for..peace to them all
Dee & Jake - Amen kikfrd
Dr. Liz - For the dog shot by the Uncle, peace on the next phase of his journey.
GirlyGirls - For me, healing in body, mind and spirit. . .healing from the pain of having trusted and been betrayed (is Good Friday over yet?)
RosieTara - For Karl, that his materialistic and consuming attitude changes to love and compassion !!!
GirlyGirls - Amen, Liz
RosieTara - Thanks jane
Sheila - Employment for my son.
Dr. Liz - For GG, that she experience the distinction between forgiveness and condonement, recognizing the need to forgive, and distinguishing that from condoning.
Dee & Jake - for us all here to be guided in ways that honor our planet and All beings/creatures/plants on it
kikfrd - for everyone here-who does so much good and radiates so much love.
GirlyGirls - For the right place, in the right location, at the right price, safe and serene and happy for me and Fannie, Fergus and Gray Cat, be found.
RosieTara - Amen to that Liz
GirlyGirls - At the right time, too!
jane - For my friend Linda and her two Catahoula cur dogs who were poisoned by drug dealers - Maddy died yesterday from seizures - please bless Linda and Jake (her brother). and Linda's brother Donald and all involved.
jane - Jake is Maddy's brother (Catahoula cur)
GirlyGirls - Thank you Liz
Dr. Liz - For GG, that as she gets very excited about the energy that she wants to feel in her new home with her animals, that that exact place present to her.
Dee & Jake - (Dr Liz- it might be possible the remedy you suggested works...Jake is resting calmly- too quickly for the pill to have kicked in..fingers crossed)
GirlyGirls - :-( Jane. . .Amen.
RosieTara - For me, that I make the right decisions with my travel plans...
GirlyGirls - Thank you again, Liz.
kikfrd - aw-for GG-good luck!
Dr. Liz - (Dee ... <smile>)
jane - Thank you GG and everyone - thanks to Dr. Liz for continuing to have this group every other week. It is amazing with her busy schedule.
RosieTara - Dee what remedy is that ?
Dr. Liz - For RT, peace and right action as she makes her travel plans.
jane - Again, for everyone here - bless you all and bless the animals.
RosieTara - Oh Liz...thank you ...not easy this time
Dr. Liz - Thanks, Jane.
GirlyGirls - That I find some restoration in my heart of believing that my prayers are heard!
jane - For my kitty Miss Scarlett - that her mouth may heal - she is so sweet. - she is getting better (not really) but I am saying that anyway.
Dr. Liz - Did anyone hear open the email with the notifications of the transcripts being posted? If so, did you like the new format?
Sheila - Thank you all, speaking and listening gives peace to my soul.
GirlyGirls - For Fannie, Fergus, and Gray Cat, vibrant health, protection from harm, and joyous spirits!
GirlyGirls - I haven't gotten to it yet, Liz.
Dee & Jake - Rt - my dog has seasonal allergies and itches like crazy, Dr Liz suggested a Bach remedy blend for him...I just tried it out during the chat...I think it may be working already if that possible
GirlyGirls - I have it, though.
RosieTara - For Jane's kitten
GirlyGirls - For Miss Scarlett.
kikfrd - (dear Universe-GG means protect them from harm but let them have joyous spirits :-)
Dr. Liz - Dee, the experience here is that when you get the mix right, it starts to change the energy in less than 7 minutes.
RosieTara - Very good , Dee& Jake
Dee & Jake - jane- what s up with kitty's mouth?
GirlyGirls - That's it Liz! Thank you!
RosieTara - Is there a remedy to prepare Tara for the 10 weeks I am away ?
Dr. Liz - Dee, or, when you get a single remedy correct, it starts to transform the energy in the being within 7 minutes.
GirlyGirls - Must go to bed. Love to all, and blessings of peace and joy in your hearts.
GirlyGirls - xoxo Till next time.
Dee & Jake - Dr Liz- well I hope so...I don't want him to suffer at all. he's my baby boy!
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Dr. Liz - GG, sleep well. Have wonderful dreams!
Sheila - Peaceful travel everyone. Good Night !
jane - Dee & Jake - she has stomatitis - Scarlett is sort of hanging in there - over 5 years now - she is still eating and like to go outside and lay in the monkey grass - her mouth is getting worse - it is a long story.
kikfrd - Nite GG
RosieTara - Sweet dreams GG
Dr. Liz - Good night all! See you in 2 weeks!
jane - It is good to see so many of you back here tonight. Thank you all - bless you - and good night.
Dee & Jake - thanks dr Liz
Dr. Liz - The chat room will stay open if anyone wants to stay!
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RosieTara - Good night everybody.....I will have lunch now...:)))
Dee & Jake - jane- what is that condition? I’ve not heard of it
kikfrd - Good night all- and thank you
Dee & Jake - night all
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Dee & Jake - how old is she now?
jane - It is supposed to be an auto-immune system disease that affects the mouth - she has had it for many years - I have tried every known concoction to man for her - thanks for asking - Scarlett is around 6 or so - she is very young to have this. I believe it was caused by vaccines.
Dee & Jake - I’m sure you have had a session with Dr Liz and her...yes?
jane - I have been on a Yahoo group for this particular disease - I have tired so many potions, herbs, Reiki, shaman healing, even SCIO - had several sessions with Dr. Liz several years ago.....I kept thinking that she would be "cured" - but that is not happening...even used a healer with tuning forks (sound) - she probably helped the most....but every week - the supplement needs would change - like peeling an onion - I could not afford to keep buying all of the supplements every week......
Dee & Jake - I ask because I had a cat with "incurable" cancer, a chat with Dr Liz revealed eh root cause. We worked with that and in 3 months, she cured herself with Bach remedies, energy work and some herbs!
Dee & Jake - I understand
Dee & Jake - Bach remedies
Dee & Jake - what does she eat??
Dee & Jake - we also switched her to an all raw food diet
jane - I think that Dr. Liz is terrific or I would not continue to come to these chat sessions. I have also used the Bach remedies and other flower essences and homeopathy - you name it - I think I have tried it - I totally ran out of money......I cannot do the raw food diet - I have 10 cats and 2 dogs - I am feeding her some WELLNESS (Liz recommended Wysong - which I fed her for several years until I could not continue to pay for the $50 shipping fee every order.
jane - Wellness I can get locally - no soy, no by-products, no corn, I can't remember what else.....sometimes junk food Science Diet AD to keep weight on her.
Dee & Jake - wow 10 2...that can get expensive...I only have 3 1
Dee & Jake - I fed Zoe kitten food when her weight dropped, more fat
jane - not to mention all of the associated cost of animal care...I do not do vaccines at all any more.
Dee & Jake - I don’t either, except the rabies for the dog b/c it is by law that I must
Dee & Jake - I must say, with my animals on raw food, all very healthy, thanks God...my Zoe had so much to deal with...after the cancer came diabetes...but we were able to manage that well for 7 years
jane - Thanks so much for caring Dee - I am glad you were back tonight. I missed your input. I have to run right now. Hope to see you nest time. Rabies is a law here too - but my dogs are inside mostly - then go out in the yard when I am home. Rabies can cause psychosis and aggression and other problems - paralysis - there are groups out there on vaccines - they scare me - the vets will NEVER admit that vaccines cause any problems in our animals!
Dee & Jake - my Zoe taught me a lot...and W/o Dr Liz I wouldn’t have gotten through it
Dee & Jake - Nice to chat with you, I'll keep your little one in my prayers...hope to "see" you here soon
jane - Good night - feel free to email me privately janeewealker@suddenlink.net also on Facebook JAne E Walker I remember Zoe well. Take care.
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