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Chat'N'Pray
December 10, 2009

"Dr. Liz's Perspective on 2012"

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Dr. Liz - Hi, Jane!
Dr. Liz - How are you tonight?
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jane - Hello - I somehow did not get in with Firefox and had to relog in.
Dr. Liz - Glad you got in!
jane - I have to say that the PBS station tonight was showing old Ed Sullivan shows with the old 60's Beatles, Rolling Stones, Animals, Gerry Marsden and the Pacemakers, Herman's Hermits bands - had to tear way from it - didn't know if I should have mentioned it or not...
Dr. Liz - Sounds wonderful!
jane - Dr. Liz - I know that you have had sessions in the past regarding the speeding up of time - but I think that it may be nice to address it again - I think I am going crazy most days! The To-Do list is so long and the time flies so fast! Do you know how many hours we are now living that used to be 24 hours?
Dr. Liz - About 22.
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jane - It feels like around 15-16!
Dr. Liz - Hi, Di!
Di - Hello, sorry I'm late!
jane - Hi Di
jane - Have you seen the movie 2012 - and if yes, what do you think?
Dr. Liz - I believe no one knows, really.
Di - I haven't seen it, but want to.
Dr. Liz - Although there are a LOT of opinions! LOL!
jane - I heard that there was a
Dr. Liz - There are a few things that are known ...
Dr. Liz - One is, our Solar System IS moving closer to the center of our galaxy ...
Dr. Liz - Another is, pure physics as we understand it, suggests that rotating spheres moving around each other and closer to other rotating spheres, WILL introduce pull and drag on each other.
Dr. Liz - Another is, the pull and drag are going to cause major stressors.
jane - 2012 show on the Sci Fi channel that had a lot of Coast to Coast people on - I did not see it - but they always talk about the movement of the solar system into a unique place in the galaxy and the alignment of the planets, etc (I almost wrote alignment of the plants!)
Dr. Liz - Historically, the stressors include the re-shaping and/or the alignment of the spheres.
Dr. Liz - Yes, I saw the movie, it was a spiritual Cinema Circle movie two months ago.
Dr. Liz - <grin> We are ALWAYS in a unique place in the galaxy ... it is just that we will be in a NEW "unique" place.
jane - There were lots of Coast to Coast AM radio show regulars on it.
Dr. Liz - Our planet has already shifted on its axis, and in our planet's history, as much as we know, the shifts in axis are always also accompanied by climactic change.
Dr. Liz - Jane, yes, I know. :)
Dr. Liz - So, these are the few things that are known.
Dr. Liz - A few suppositions, include that since our solar system is towards the outside of our galaxy, it is more "negative" meaning there is more "resistance" energy on it.
jane - What is the thing about the stopping of the Earth's warbling??
Dr. Liz - It is also supposed that closer to the interior of our galaxy, there is less "resistance", meaning more "resonance", and hence, more "positivity."
Dr. Liz - The supposition is that as we move closer to the center of our galaxy, we will be receiving an influx of more and more "positive" or "resonance" energy.
jane - David Wilcock (the "reincarnation of Edgar Cayce") - which I believe is the case - says that this whole thing is ALL POSITIVE.
Dr. Liz - Jane, that would be a result of the stressors and/or the sudden complete removal of them, which WILL happen at the moment of direct center in the cyclical cycle. Again, from what we know of physics, it can be no other way.
Di - I read earlier this week about connection between horoscope/astrological alignments and a near death experience someone had that enlightened them to 2012. Is there any connection between the 12 'beings' that represent the horoscopes and the 'group decision makers' that decide whether Chaos comes back to me?
Dr. Liz - Jane, there are many people who believe that EVERYTHING is positive, whether we can understand that it is, or not. Wilcock is one. I've watched his videos on youtube.
Dr. Liz - Di, at one level, everything is connected.
Dr. Liz - I have done "journeys" into the Upper World, different levels of the Upper World. There is a hierarchy there ... the level that helps determine soul reincarnations, is lower than the level of the beings that determine the influences and their full expression on the planets ... however, they do all have a communication system.
Di - Sounds great....where do I buy tickets for that trip?
Dr. Liz - Jane, a simple example is, if you have a rotating ball, and you "throw" that ball out, and the ball has a "recall" feature such as a boomerang does, then at the exactly point when the ball is the furthest out, and is about to turn again to return, it will be still ... or ... "stopped" ... that's what they're talking about.
Dr. Liz - Di, LOL, they're shamanic journeys, and they're wonderful to do ... get Harner's book, "The Way of the Shaman."
jane - I have been keeping track of him since I first heard him in 2004 on Coast - however, I believe that he has a HUGE EGO problem - I have not felt that connected to him and his information in the last year or so. It is all so confusing to me - the upper levels - the higher self - I feel so low on the totem pole most of the time. Sometimes I just shut it all off and try to be a "regular" human being who has never heard of all of this stuff!
Di - The beings referenced by this near death experience guy seemed more about revelation to him. So I guess not associated with 'the committee'.
Dr. Liz - And when the earth's wobble stops, our gravity will also stop, and the entire planet will respond to that.
Dr. Liz - Jane, if you're referring to Wilcock, he does not sense to me, as Edgar Cayce's energy. I believe he is a self-proclaimed Cayce. Cayce had no ego when he was channeling.
jane - Dr. Liz - people on Coast have said that the Earth's wobble stopped several years ago?
Dr. Liz - Di, each soul or essence energy has a "committee" that assists in the overseeing of the journey of the soul. I see more like 16 to 20 energies on an individual essence energy's committee, and one of them, is the essence energy itself.
Dr. Liz - Jane, they are correct. It did.
Dr. Liz – Jane, yes, the Earth’s wobble did stop, for a short period of time. It was quite chaotic in terms of weather conditions.
Dr. Liz - I believe it happened most recently in 2006.
Di - If the wobble stopped, wouldn't we be floating (lack of gravity)?
Dr. Liz - Di, yes. That's why there is a lot of concern.
Dr. Liz - Gravity quite literally keeps our planet together.
Dr. Liz - There are quite a number of implications to what happens when gravity stops.
jane - Dr. Liz - what do you think is going to happen in 2012 or around that time frame???
jane - Do you think that people's consciousness is raising - it seems that more people care about the animals, but on the other hand, more people are abusing the animals - I work with a local animal organization that has an abuse/neglect hotline - the calls are heart wrenching - law enforcement could care less about the animals, in general.
Dr. Liz - Jane, before I answer your question on 2012, I feel to add that the earth's wobble is not entirely because of our rotation on our axis. From my understanding, it is caused in great part by oceanic conditions, along with the salinity and the wind conditions, on our planet. So if it stops, it is not the ONLY thing that creates our experience of gravity, etc.
Dr. Liz - Now if the earth's rotation stops, that's something else entirely.
Dr. Liz – Jane, there is a large body of "spiritual" people who feel that consciousness is raising, and they focus on that.
Dr. Liz - What I see, and still see, is what I've been saying for almost 15 years now.
Dr. Liz - About 15 years ago, I noticed that there was appearing in the experiences and reflexes of spirituality … and by the experiences and reflexes of spirituality I mean ALL the spiritual experiences from shame right on up to high enlightenment ... that may take some explaining but stay with me for a while ...
Dr. Liz - I noticed a schism starting to occur.
Dr. Liz - The "positive" consciousness people and the "negative" consciousness people were starting to congeal and separate.
Dr. Liz - The "positive" were getting more and more "positive", and the "negative" were getting more and more "negative.
Dr. Liz - And the two groups of consciousnesses, as they congealed with each other, were starting to pull apart from each other.
Di - Very interesting!!!!
Di - What does it all mean?
jane - Dr. Liz - I remember your writing about this on several chat sessions - I guess that I just wanted to believe that more people were raising their consciousness - instead of "separating"
Dr. Liz - A result of this was, that people who may have been on the borderline, and who were becoming more, let's say, "positive", not only WEREN'T relating to "negative" people as much, they actually COULDN'T ... lives changed, divorces happened, friends broke apart, ... and this is continuing to happen. The division, the schism, between the two groups, is getting bigger and bigger.
Dr. Liz - I have mentioned this to one VERY highly spiritual and energy aware person, who says he sees the same thing I'm seeing.
Di - Has this happened before?
Dr. Liz - Jane ... a large number of people ARE raising consciousness. However, there are also those, who are not.
Dr. Liz - Di, I sense it has, yes.
jane - I try hard to be positive every day - but it is so hard in my neighborhood - these people are so far down on the (what I call) totem pole - I don't see how they could EVER wake up to life around them and being concerned about anyone but themselves. -
jane - I hit the wrong button before I was finished...
Dr. Liz - A perhaps at least equally relevant question is, what to DO about it.
jane - I try to "send them LOVE and positive energy - then realize that I REALLY do not like some of these people and do not care what happens to them - I just want to get away from them and their unhealthy life style.
Dr. Liz - I have come to believe, that what we DO about all of this, starts with US, each one of us, with our own, internal experience ... in other words, our own inner reflection and experience of our OWN spirituality.
Dr. Liz - That's why I created the 7 Minutes to Unconditional Love Process. http://www.elizabethseverino.com/7Minutes.html.
Dr. Liz - The one on my web-site. It’s free.
jane – I think that is the key also - what we DO or THINK about things matters.
Dr. Liz - When we start with truly giving love to ourselves, and then direct it to others, the situation we are directing it to, HAS to change.
jane - I want to get to your blog and check that out - I haven't done it yet. It sounds fascinating!
Di - I believe my reiki I & II training this weekend definitely raised my connection with spirituality.
jane - How do we TRULY GIVE LOVE to others if we do not actually FEEL the LOVE??
Dr. Liz - Jane, do the process. Again, you can reach the process from my web-site ... http://www.elizabethseverino.com/7Minutes.html. What the blog is for, is sharing one's experiences and/or requests to support in doing the process. The blog address is http://www.voiceforallcreatures.com.
Dr. Liz - Jane, that's what the process is all about ... it teaches you how, and helps you feel it in a very powerful way, in 7 minutes a day or less. What I find interesting is, even people who say they are on the spiritual path, can’t seem to keep up with this incredibly important and effective 7 Minute process that completely changes one’s perception and awareness, and puts one into a perception and attitude of unconditional love.
jane - Thanks, Dr. Liz - I will look at that this weekend. I look forward to it.
Dr. Liz – Again, the blog is www.voiceforallcreatures.com. You'll see the title, "7 Minutes to Unconditional Love" ... click on that title, and you'll be able to leave a comment. There are a few other "Titles" on the blog now ... I am having SO much fun with that blog ... LOL!
Dr. Liz - There's one for favorite videos, one for favorite quotes, another one for what people have done with food to help heal their animals ... I'm very optimistic that a lot of wonderful and inspiring and helpful information on a wide variety of areas will result from people sharing there.
jane - Di - I am glad that you will have Reiki training this weekend - I wish I had that opportunity locally in person, but there is no one here where I live to do this. I know that it will deepen your spirituality.
Dr. Liz - The main issue appears to be, that none of us so far are "blog-wise" meaning none of us including me are sure exactly HOW to post anything to a blog. LOL!
Dr. Liz - We all have wonderful ideas to share, that's certain!!!
jane - I know - as I mentioned before - I am still trying to figure out Facebook!!
Dr. Liz - Di, where did you post that you're having Reiki training this weekend? Oh, that's WONDERFUL!!!
Di - Went last weekend in NYC.
Dr. Liz - Oh, you had it LAST weekend ... I am SO HAPPY for you!!!
jane - How did it go, Di?
jane - Dr. Liz is a Reiki Master, as well as other energy healing modalities.
Di - I'm so grateful for your guidance along my path!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
Dr. Liz - What is your experience now? Do you feel different, or notice yourself "be-ing" different? For some, after Reiki training, they notice a lot more STUFF coming up to be healed and released ...
Dr. Liz - Di, you are MOST welcome!!!
Dr. Liz - They also often notice that their animal(s) are different around them ... :)
jane - Dr. Liz - I DO notice more and more spiritual connections happening and more intuition, etc., but it is so gradual - I WANT MMMOOORRRREEEEE!
Di - Not really feeling different my experience was not as dramatic as some, but significant. I'm focusing on helping others, not so much myself.
Dr. Liz - Jane, the way to invite more, is to gratefully journal the ones of which you are aware.
Dr. Liz - Di, it is quite possible that you entered the class at an already-higher level than others there, because of your previous service work and your closeness to animals.
Di - Riot has been the same lovebug he's always been.
jane - I am so bad about writing things down! I KNOW that it helps. I think that I am lazy in so many ways and am trying to overcome this. As I get older, it gets harder - I just sort of fly through the day by the seat o my pants - making up everything as I go along - I am very bad at planning or journaling...
Dr. Liz - <grin> Di, he's such a wonderful be-ing!!! Have you done a Reiki session on him yet?
Di - Not yet. I want to review my materials before I start (went from weekend of training back into regular work week).
Dr. Liz - Jane, I'm a mix of extraordinary self-control and self-discipline, and total spontaneity ... go figure!!!
Di - I will say that the 2 days before the class, something came up and stayed with me.....as if to be addressed in the training. And it was.
jane - You are a total work of art, Dr. Liz!!!!
Dr. Liz - Di, the changes start the moment we set our intention to take the Reiki training ... it's wonderful, how that works ...
Dr. Liz - Jane LOL LOL OL Well, a total "work" anyway ... LOL LOL LOL
Dr. Liz - I just noticed the clock. It's time to do the Prayer portion of our chat'n'pray.
Dr. Liz - Ready?
Di - Liz- I would say you’re an old wise spirit along with a youthful spirit.
jane - Yes, ma'am.
Dr. Liz - First, choose a Name, that works for you, to represent all that is sacred, holy, and divine in your life, and key that into the chatroom ...
jane - Universe
Di - Universe
Dr. Liz – (Di ... that's very kind ... and it's also what I have come to believe is true, too).
Dr. Liz - Sacred Universe.
Dr. Liz - And now, while thinking/saying/feeling your Name, breathe in and out deeply, three times.
Dr. Liz - Sacred Universe, Universe, you are in us, and we are in you. We combine together.
Dr. Liz - Your healing grace and peace infills us, as we merge with that aspect of you, that infills us.
Dr. Liz - And as we radiate out to others, that aspect of you, with which we have merged.
Dr. Liz - Our intention is to be channels of healing grace and peace, insight and comfort, support and love, to others.
Dr. Liz - And as we well up inside ourselves, our awareness of our intention, we feel our intention, and ask you to increase our intention, even more powerfully.
Dr. Liz - Before me, is the Basket of Blessings, containing hundreds of prayers for people, animals, and situations.
Dr. Liz - We focus our healing grace and power that we feel now by virtue of having merged with you, on the Basket and its contents.
Dr. Liz - May each situation, animal, and person in the Basket, receive the healing prayer energy now, in grace and perfect ways, with harm to none.
Dr. Liz - And it is so.
Dr. Liz - It is time now, to enter the names of any other persons, animals, or situations for whom healing prayer energy is requested.
Dr. Liz - The worthwhile animal charities and rescues, that people give generously to them this 2009 Holiday season.
Di - For Pat: that the grip of anxiety and addiction be release to allow for healing; for both him and his family
jane - I am asking for healing for my friend Linda and her 2 dogs - Jake and Maddie who were poisoned by drug dealers - Jake has recovered, but Maddie has had seizures - she had one last night - please bless MAddie - she is the siser of Jake - a Louisiana Catahoula Cur beautirul doggie.
Di - For Mark: that his resurfaced grief be released to allow healing
Dr. Liz - For my neighbors, who have been sickened by the chemicals from their refinished hardwood floors ... that they may recover completely from their highly toxic exposure .
jane - Please bless and help heal Miss Scarlett and Nikki and all of my animals to be in vibrant health.
jane - Please bless and help my friends Dalton and Sarah - may they find meaningful jobs and good health.
Dr. Liz - Jane, there is also an email in the Basket on them ... your friend Linda may want to have a session for Maddie to see what might help her now.
Dr. Liz - Jane, at the very least, she'll need a detox.
Dr. Liz - For those of us who may be struggling with awareness of the parts of ourselves that frighten us ... may we feel compassion and support while and when we venture into those territories of our own terrain.
jane - Dr. Liz - I told Linda about you since I ran into her again last year - it was all meant to be - I had not seen her for many years...she is a Yoga master and is very spiritual - I am so glad that I ran into her again - it is a wonderful "connection" story.
Di - For my 2 co-workers, Erin & Mellisa, who gave birth this week; and to their infants.
Dr. Liz - Jane, it feels delicious from here. :)
Dr. Liz - For my daughter and my grandsons, that they find happiness, health, healing, joy, and peace.
jane - Dr.Liz - when Linda gets her computer network fixed, I am sure that she will join these session - she has been going to an Ashram in Venezuela for 25 years and is VERY aware of most things.....
Dr. Liz - For Jim, that he be gainfully subcontracted again as his current contract completes.
Di - For Liz- that she continues to recieve support along her guided path of healing
Dr. Liz - Di, thank you. :)
jane - For all of the animals and beings of the world - may we all learn to connect and help each other and love each other.
Dr. Liz - For all of us here, that we experience joy, support, and confidence along our chosen paths.
Di - for a health/happy return of Chaos :)
jane - PS - Dr. Liz - my friend Linda is also a vegetarian.
Di - for protection of Riot
Dr. Liz - Di ... :) Jane ... :)
jane - Please bring PEACE and JOY to my own life and that my animals are all well - Nikki was sick and is now better.......
Dr. Liz - May we all have the insight to know what is best for our animals that we love, in our caring stewardship of them ...
jane - Thank you SO much, Dr. Liz - for continuing to have these sessions - especially if there are only 2 of us here tonight!
Dr. Liz - Di, Jane, thank you both for joining in tonight. I wish you both wonderful dreams, and that the intentions deep within your hearts, be made manifest in grace and perfect ways.
Dr. Liz - Bye for now!
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jane - Thank youso much, Dr. Liz. Goodnight all and thanks so much - these sessions are so refreshing!!!
Di - Good Night!
jane - Goodnight Di.
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